Thursday, March 31, 2016

So Was What Trump Said On Abortion REALLY So Bad?

by Xavier Connolly
Mainstream media in the USA have been getting their knickers in a twist about Donald Trump again. This time it is The Donald's comments on abortion that are causing excitement.

Trump calls for abortion to be bannned, the headlines read.
"Trump said women should be punished for having abortions," screeched the screeching feminists who think being caught in possession of testicles should be a capital offence.

The opinions of our three main contributors are mixed. My general feeling is against except in special circumstances, probably something to do with my Catholic upbringing; Phil T Looker who posts on Finance and will be back from his winter sojourn in warmer climes soon, thinks the law in the UK, abortion available up to 24 weeks, after that only for medical reasons, and the founder Ian confesses he used to be very liberal on the topic until first he had a long conversation with a nurse of his intimate acquaintance who described the psychological effects of late term abortion on many women, and secondly after he was exposed through online activity to the psychotic obsession of many American feminists and 'liberals' with the idea that abortion should be promoted as the contraceptive method of choice because 'woman's right to choose'.

But it is a very emotive subject and not one people should talk about in public without carefully organising their thoughts.

So what did Donald Trump say, is it a case, as with previous Trump related controversies, of him simply giving a straight answer to a question and then being taken out of context? Let's have a vada:

Here are the relevant parts of an interview with Obama worshipper Chris Matthews (the one who in 2008 admitted he comes in his pants every time he hears Obama speak) compiled by Bloomberg.
  • Host Chris Matthews presses Trump on anti-abortion position, repeatedly asking him, “Should abortion be punished? This is not something you can dodge”
    • “Look, people in certain parts of the Republican Party, conservative Republicans, would say, ‘Yes, it should,’” Trump answers
    • “How about you?” Matthews asks
    • “I would say it’s a very serious problem and it’s a problem we have to decide on. Are you going to send them to jail?” Trump says
    • “I’m asking you,” Matthews says
    • “I am pro-life,” Trump says
    • “How do you actually ban abortion?” Matthews asks
    • “Well, you go back to a position like they had where they would perhaps go to illegal places but we have to ban it,” Trump says
  • Matthews then presses Trump on if he believes there should be punishment for abortion if it were illegal
    • “There has to be some form of punishment,” Trump says
    • “For the woman?” Matthews says; “Yeah,” Trump says, nodding
    • Trump says punishment would “have to be determined”
    • “They’ve set the law and frankly the judges, you’re going to have a very big election coming up for that reason because you have judges where it’s a real tipping point and with the loss of Scalia, who was a very strong conservative, this presidential election is going to be very important,” Trump says
    • “When you say what’s the law, nobody knows what the law is going to be. It depends on who gets elected,” Trump says
Obviously Matthews set out to trap Trump but notice that he was referring to illegal abortions and not abortion in general. That is very different to what is being reported and what the feminists and 'liberals' are getting worked up about. Trump is trapped by the nature of the question, because it refers to specifically ILLEGAL abortion he must either say women should be punished or may break the law with impunity because womens' right to choose. It's well know Donald Trump is susceptible to badgering and. Matthews set our to rile him.

So really, in the correct context , Donald Trump, in answering a question about ILLEGAL abortion has not said anything truly controversial. Womens' rights do not include the right to break the law. What Matthews did was comparable to asking people who drive powerful cars if drivers who break speed limits should go to jail.


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